Mark Gober is a bright young Silicon Valley investment banker who has researched consciousness and rapidly made himself an expert in this field. His two excellent books are An End to Upside Down Thinking – Dispelling the Myth That the Brain Produces Consciousness, and the Implications for Everyday Life (2018) and An End to Upside-Down Living - Reorienting Our Consciousness to Live Better and Save the Human Species (2020). Here Mark shares with us what his consciousness research has helped him understand about spiritual growth.--