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In this episode of Navigating Neva, Nicole and Wes welcome Mark — host of the Heavy or Not podcast, ISCA contributor, and longtime advocate for gameplay and water polo.

We dive into:

• Why water polo is one of the most unique (and underrated) sports in aquatics.
• How gameplay keeps kids engaged and builds long-term swim development.
• The vision and impact of ISCA (International Swim Coaches Association).
• The story behind Heavy or Not — and how Mark decides what’s truly “heavy.”

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