Han and Joyce get brutally honest about the chaos of running small businesses, the hidden economics behind markets and pop-ups, and why accepting a compliment can feel harder than any service rush.

They share vulnerable stories of burnout, picking yourself up (again and again), and the scrappy realities no one posts about. From bed-rotting afternoons and chicken therapy to unexpected mentorship moments and learning to surrender, it’s a raw, funny, and unexpectedly comforting look at survival, self-worth, and finding joy on the hardest days.

This episode is full of broken windows, truck break downs, and showing up with a smile.