In this episode Pim Betist sits down with behavioral expert and advisor to legal professionals Marloes ter Huurne to talk about why change in the legal sector isn’t just about tech, but also about mindset.

We cover:

- Why believing in yourself is a superpower for lawyers

- The hidden damage of “stick” motivation and how to build real trust

- How to create a psychologically safe culture (and why it leads to higher quality)

- What leaders can learn from sailing and Silicon Valley

- Why managing for enjoyment beats managing for billable hours

- How walking boosts EQ, creativity—and even billing

- The real reason feedback stings so much

- What the Zeigarnik Effect means for legal work and brain health

- Concrete tips to manage your energy

This is one of the most human-centered, practical conversations we’ve had and it might just change how you think about leadership.

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