Welcome to Season 2. In this episode, we’re getting real about what it’s like to have a marriage that lives in the spotlight.

We talk honestly about what that transition looked like for us, from bringing Tae into a public role to learning how to navigate expectations that people place on you when your life is visible. We discuss the balance between what is meant to be private and what can be shared publicly, and how important it is for us to protect our children while still living out the calling God has placed on our lives. We also talk about the pressure that can come with the spotlight, being expected to always be the most mature person in the room, when sometimes you just want the freedom to be yourself without judgment. Tae shares what it has been like learning to navigate being seen as “the pastor’s wife,” while also reminding people that she is her own person with her own identity and calling. And together we talk about the rhythm we’re still learning to find, showing up for people who need us while also making sure our own cups stay full. This conversation is honest, reflective, and a reminder that behind every public role are two real people still learning, growing, and leaning on God together.