Ever had a backup plan for love? Join us to explore the quirky world of marriage pacts between friends! In this episode, I sit down with my therapist, Camille Montebello, to unravel the psychology behind these promises of future matrimony. Are they a safety net or a trap? Then, things get personal as I chat with my friend, Elzia Sekou — and yes, we have a pact of our own. We're spilling the beans on our deal, the fine print, and whether we'll end up saying "I do" to Plan B. Tune in for laughs, insights, and the ultimate question: is this just silly fun, or are we actually onto something?

This episode was hosted and produced by Quin Kepler.

Executive Producers: Reya Divekar, Liam Kuhns