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I first met Marta Kauffman and David Crane in the late 1970's through a mutual friend.  It was immediately apparent that they were really smart and really clever.  Beyond funny.  Clever.  And it was pretty clear that they were going to be successful.  Eventually, they became incredibly successful, creating Friends, a TV show seen around the world.  But on the path to Friends, there were more than a few obstacles and periods of struggle.  The early years, the "Before The Cheering Started" years, were the focus of our conversation in 2021: writing award winning shows in college, an off Broadway production in New York, somewhat less than glamorous jobs along the way (e.g. selling ink toner over the phone) and the final path to television and international success.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices