Panel: Charles Max Wood Guest: Travis Tidwell This week on My Angular Story, Charles speaks with https://twitter.com/softwaregnome?lang=en (Dallas, TX) who is CTO and co-founder of https://twitter.com/form_io?lang=en Chuck and Travis talk about his background, open source struggles, and more. Check it out! In particular, we dive pretty deep on: 0:00 – Advertisement: https://devchat.tv/get-a-coder-job/ 0:49 – Chuck: Welcome! We had you on https://devchat.tv/adv-in-angular/aia-125-api-powered-components-for-severless-applications-with-travis-tidwell/ A lot has changed huh? The nice thing, though, about these changes is that we seem to be tackling different problems. 1:42 – https://github.com/travist They are stabilizing on the same on the same design patterns. I think that’s refreshing. Back in the day, everyone had their own way of doing it. It was difficult to find which one is the RIGHT one. 2:05 – Chuck: Yes, I agree. Gives us your background, please! 2:20 – Guest: I am still doing Form IO, and the co-founder and CTO of the company. My Angular Story is MY story on how the company evolved. 3:05 – Chuck: How did you get into programming? 3:09 – Guest: I am going to be 40-years old in May! I am getting up there. Everyone who I am talking to (in my age) it seems like we have the same story. We have this story of having that REALLY old computer. Parents bring home the https://www.ibm.com/us-en/?ar=1 or the http://oldcomputers.net/c64.html and that really is my story. At the time, the only thing you could learn with it was to program – there weren’t any video games, etc. A book that I geeked-out about was: https://www.amazon.com/DOS-Dummies-Dan-Gookin/dp/0764503618 The guest talks about his senior year in college and how he came to fall in-love with programming. 6:28 – Guest: After college, I got a job for working for a company that used http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/ code. People ask: How the heck did you get into Web? My background, too, was tap dancing and in the arts. Most people don’t know that. I was giving these tap lessons to kids – and around that time YouTube was just for cat videos. At the time, I thought it would be great to teach these tap video lessons online. I found a CMS at the time that would help me with my teaching intent. https://www.drupal.org/about took me into the frontend libraries. PHP is a backend language, and https://www.drupal.org/about was based entirely on PHP. There was this huge paradigm-shift within my career. I really got into these tools not knowing that it would change my career. My open source has taken me to tutorial videos. Eventually, a light bulb went off and I found a solution that needed to be solved within Angular. 12:21 – Guest.  12:28 – Chuck: I love the side hustle description: I saw a need out there and we solved it! 12:40 – Guest: Side hustle is great to talk about. Open source is a bit of a struggle (at that time) it was really hard to maintain open source and providing for your family at the same time. Open source is hard b/c you work your butt off, but you aren’t getting paid for it. It’s really, really difficult. I’ve had ups-and-downs actually with open source. You...