Massey and Cari explore how easy it is to make an idol out of ministry! They speak from their experiences, struggles, and successes, and let you know how to see ministry for what it is...SAVING SOULS and DISCIPLESHIP! Loving God's people is the goal!

Also, they discuss the migrant caravan making its way to the US border, as well as Washington DC having a solution to all their stolen cars and soaring crime wave - apple air tags.