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In Episode 7, Han and Hitesh sit down with Hugh Williams, who went from teaching himself Fortran in rural Australia to co-inventing infinite scroll at Microsoft and leading search teams at eBay and Google; holding 38 US patents along the way. In this episode, Hugh shares how Microsoft's "six to eight people can change the world" mentality fundamentally changed what he believed was possible in his career, why he believes the future of commerce will be conversational rather than transactional, and the pivotal hiking conversation with his wife that led him to walk away from Silicon Valley and choose family over executive ambition; ultimately learning that career success comes from making the people around you successful, not proving you're better than them.

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