Rina Neal, Controller for the city of Manhattan, Kansas, joins for a discussion about what it is like on an everyday basis to be a public employee. We discuss the ways Covid-19 has changed her role and the way the city is adapting. We then move on to a discussion of her other role in the community, That of an elected official. We discuss how she got into politics, why the school board was the avenue she took and how she sits in both the administrative and political world.