A conversation between Central Saint Martins' Carole Collet, Franklin Till's Caroline Till and Steelcase's John Small about the potentials afforded by material research and development, chaired by Disegno's editor-in-chief Oli Stratford. This podcast was created in collaboration with Steelcase. This podcast was recorded during a live talk hosted in Steelcase's Clerkenwell showroom on 24 May 2018 during Clerkenwell Design Week.

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