Matt Brown is one of the coolest and most thoughtful guys inthe toy business. His dedication to play and kids is always inspiring.

Over the years, since he entered our industry with Zoob,Matt and Chris have had many conversations about the role of play in children’s lives and why play is so critical to all of us.

In this conversation, we talk about how play literally shapes kids' brains, uses of AI to support play, Matt's new project, the Kibeam Wand that has the potential to transform learning to read, and much more.

Listen in to this lively conversation.