This week I'm in conversation with Matt Gibberd, co-founder of The Modern House and designer and artist Yinka Ilori.

We've come together not only to discuss Yinka's popular Colour Palace - the Dulwich Pavilion 2019 he designed, which is now on sale on The Modern House website. We also discuss all things craftsmanship and colour, building communities, the ups and downs of running your own creative practice and how to grow your business. And we have a laugh too.

Presented by Justyna Green

Music and production by James Gre