How to Deal When the Shit Gets Real Podcast

Matt Williams: Courage and Conversation


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In part two of my talk with Matt Williams, we dive deep into the power—and necessity—of having conversations about controversial topics. Matt opens up about what it’s really like to run for office, the lessons he learned along the way, and why respectful dialogue matters now more than ever.

We talk about listening when it’s uncomfortable, finding common ground in chaos, and how courage and curiosity can change the world—one conversation at a time.

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