Matt speaks with reluctant podcasting expert Tristan Miller (@tristanjmiller) and they do a podcast about podcasts. We discuss the link between NPR pledge drives and new podcasts as well as male discomfort with friendship. It's far too inside baseball for a second episode, and it's an absolute delight to listen to Tristan try and listen to Matt get podcasting 85% right. Just wait till you see your favorite podcast merch as prolific as football jerseys. 

Surely we got something wrong and I can't wait for you to tell me what it was.  See Tristan at The Lincoln Lodge in Chicago on November 10!!

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/manic-impressive-tickets-431270029267

Learn more:

Hell

https://www.tristanjmiller.com/focus-testing