Mike talks with Max Bo‍‍‍rders, the founder and Executive Director of Social Evolution —a non-profit organization dedicated to liberating humanity through innovation. Max is also the co-founder of the Future Frontiers conference and festival. He’s the author of a number of books, including The Decentralist, The Social Singularity, After Collapse, and his most recent book, Underthrow: How Jefferson’s Dangerous Idea Will Spark a New Revolution, which is the focus of their discussion.

Topics Mike and Max discuss include:

- the modern faith in the Church of State

- what luxury beliefs are, and why they’re a problem

- why Max things we should relate to each other as consumers

- libertarianism and anarchism

- hubris and revolutionary change

Check out Max’s Constitution of Consent contest. It’s free to enter and the winner will get $25,000.

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