This recorded conversation was basically to show how Verbalee abusive Joyce Matthews is to me. before the custody trial she had agreed to help me with my visitation she also felt that the kids should not be kept for me and she was supportive of me seeing the children but consistency with Joyce unfortunately is not a possibility. Joyce was angry with me for speaking out against my parents and she never really liked my parents so I don’t know why she wanted to defend them or what she got out of it except I guess because she wanted approval from her mother which was my mother sister. unfortunately when it comes to child abuse most people don’t really care except for the people that have experienced it. Unfortunately my extended family would prefer that you spread your legs and just fucking take it and shut the fuck up so they do not have to hear about it.

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