This week we return to our conversation between Baye Sylvester and Focus Initiatives’ Jok Huerta. Both formerly incarcerated in Indiana, they described the circumstances that brought them to prison in a previous episode. In this segment, they talk about the way the prison system responds to politically-engaged prisoners. When prisoners become conscious and organized, the prison ramps the level of repression. As you’ll hear Baye and Jok discuss, prisoners who educate themselves are viewed as a threat to the system that confines them.

This conversation was part of the Prisoners Speak Out Series, hosted by IDOC Watch and Focus Initiatives.You can listen to their previous conversation here.