After suffering through the Lions' pulverizing by the Baltimore Ravens, David and Marshall continue our conversation about fathers and sons in pro sports (01:37), and Marshall attempts to see the upcoming trade deadline through Lions general manager Brad Holmes's eyes (12:55). We wrap up by discussing our perspectives on the beatdown in Baltimore (20:55). Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"

"Maybe it's an XL"

We're master relationship coach Marshall Zweig and commercial artist David Hughes: longtime friends, and long-suffering fans of the Detroit Lions—a team synonymous our entire lives with losing.

Well...they used to be.

SHIT2GRIT℠ is about getting hurt, about opening back up, about shedding old perspectives and adopting new ones.

For us, football is a chance to go deep.

Join our friendship as we explore memories, debrief experiences, master communication…and root for the team in Honolulu blue. | marshallzweig.com/shit2grit | @2023 Zweig/Hughes | WARNING: ADULT LANGUAGE

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We're master relationship coach Marshall Zweig and commercial artist David Hughes: longtime friends, and long-suffering fans of the Detroit Lions—a team synonymous our entire lives with losing. Well...they used to be. SHIT2GRIT℠ is about getting hurt, about opening back up, about shedding old perspectives and adopting new ones. For us, football is a chance to go deep. Join our friendship as we explore memories, debrief experiences, master communication…and root for the team in Honolulu blue. | marshallzweig.com/shit2grit | @2023 Zweig/Hughes | WARNING: ADULT LANGUAGE

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