With the new MacBook Pro, Apple has angered power users. Why a Touch Bar instead of a touchscreen? Why only USB-C ports? Why only 16gb of RAM? Why no new Mac Pro desktop? And with its new Surface Studio, why does Microsoft now seem more innovative than Apple? We convene an extra-large panel to discuss these issues and more.

• Andy hates the new keyboard Alex hates the loss of MagSafe
• Rene explains why Apple could only legally put in 16gb of RAM
• Leo has a solution: Hackintosh

Hosts: Leo Laporte, Andy Ihnatko, Alex Lindsay, and Rene Ritchie

Guest: Adam Engst

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