Joanne and I talk about James O’Brien’s new book, How Not To Be Wrong, and if survival mode is wholly a bad thing. The discussion meanders around a bit, but I think she learned from me in the end!

We then touch on a future of no physical possessions and if we are at the start of such a movement to a near digital-only future.

Finally, we talk about the new Borat movie and how it made us feel.

Music by Tom Munch.