here's the text of today's conversation:

“I want to talk about responsibility and the two main camps of thought and then my position.

“On the one hand, we have those who argue that the responsibilities of spiritual development belong to forces outside individual lives--gods, saviors, gurus, etc.--that we must give into them because they are ultimately responsible for the spiritual meaning and progress. On the other hand, we have those who argue that each spirit is ultimately responsible for its own development--that each of us entities, if we fail to develop are irresponsible. And both are absurd on their faces.

“If we are simply spiritual pawns in some larger plan that really does not depend at all on our choices, then what's the point. Yet if we are totally responsible for our spiritual development, what’s to stop all from simply winding down and kerplop.

“If we will, at points of exploration, fail to do what we need to do does that mean all meaning collapses? No more than trying to say we are the sum total of all meaning. But I boldly suggest another understanding: that we are each responsible but not ultimately. And at the same time there are no enduring sources of ultimate meaning… yet!

“Ultimate meaning outside ourselves implies a static reality. Ultimate meaning within ourselves implies a limited meaning. But if we… and by that I mean all spirit… seek to find at least some measure of meaning, then the ultimate meaning will dynamically come more into being. We are only responsible for taking part, not creating it all nor abdication of all responsibility. Like a good game of anything, show up! Be there! And the score at any moment or level doesn't matter.