In this episode we meet Dolly Makole, the governance supremo who never shys away from leading by example. She says procurement professionals must be rewarded more. Dolly doesn't believe in consequence management as a solution for higher compliance. In this episode she opens up on her start in procurement and details how she rose to be a top procurement governance go-to-expert. If you want to know how to deal with irregular expenditure in procurement, make sure you listen to the very end, for the cure of this governance pandemic. We ask, what if the Deputy Chief Justice leading the public enquiry into the allegations of corruption gives her a call, and he asks her, for advice on possible remedial action on  governance for public sector procurement. Listen to the podcast to hear more.