This summer, I had the privilege of meeting a visionary. Ebony Janice is self-described Womanist, Scholar, Activist, Teacher, Author, Student, Artist, Preacher, Transformational Speaker, Content Creator, Healer.

More than self-described, I can attest that those labels don't begin to capture the energy, conviction, and what I would describe as a fierce joyradiating from this woman.

Also mentioned in this interview is another visionary Akilah S. Richards of Fare of the Free Child podcast and Raising Free People.

At ~ 29:00 EbonyJanice and I go right to the heart of the matter — though the whole conversation was amazing and full of so much learning.