Meet Gary. He’s rinsing dishes in the kitchen while his mind can’t let go of what’s going on at work. A new CEO, major structural shifts, and an overwhelming sense that everything he once knew is rapidly changing. As CFO, Gary’s job is to be a steady hand, but he feels anything but steady. He’s tired. Disconnected. Unsure of how to lead his team through the chaos when he’s questioning everything himself. In this episode, Jay is joined by Rachel Burr, transformation coach and author of Butterfly Goo: The Down and Dirty Truth of Transformation. Rachel brings over 20 years of experience helping leaders navigate change with courage and emotional intelligence. Together, they unpack Gary’s story and explore how seasoned professionals can rediscover agency, shift from resistance to intention, and lead through disruption without losing themselves in the process. Rachel reveals why transformation rarely begins with a grand gesture but often starts with a whisper—one we’re often too distracted or too scared to hear. She discusses the “cast iron skillet of change,” the illusion of safety that keeps us stuck, and why creating your own path often means embracing uncertainty with humor, humility, and heart. Notable Quotes “Change happens when fear of the unknown is dwarfed by a looming dread of the same.” — Rachel Burr “The path isn’t something you find. It’s something you build.” — Rachel Burr  ““When you take the steps forward, the path then reveals itself.” — Jay Abbasi About Our Guest Rachel Burr is a transformation coach, speaker, and author of Butterfly Goo: The Down and Dirty Truth of Transformation. With two decades of experience helping leaders navigate disruption, Rachel empowers her clients to embrace change with clarity, emotional intelligence, and humor. Her work blends storytelling, practical frameworks, and neuroscience to support professionals in building meaningful, values-aligned careers—even when the path forward feels unclear. Resources and Links Rachel Burr Website – https://catamentum.com/ LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelmburr/ Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/catamentum/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/Catamentum-103683172004444 X (formerly Twitter) – https://twitter.com/Catamentum Jay Abbasi Website – https://jayabbasi.me/ LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayabbasi/ Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/jayabbasi_/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/thejayabbasi/ YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@jayabbasipodcast Join Us Next Time On Friday’s episode, Jay will share a powerful lesson he learned from one of the most influential rappers of our generation. It’s about how embracing your unique journey—without comparison or apology—can unlock resilience, creativity, and purpose in your career. If you’re feeling pulled to live more authentically, this one’s for you. Stay inspired, stay resilient, and stay connected to what truly matters.