Earlier this month, Madison swore in Shon Barnes as the new chief of police. For today’s show, we feature Tuesday host Carousel Bayrd’s exclusive interview with Chief Barnes about his philosophy of policing and his vision for the Madison Police Department.

They talk about what brought Chief Barnes to Wisconsin, community and neighborhood-oriented policing, SROs and police in schools, Madison’s summer protests and the use of force, the role of the criminal justice system in non-violent crimes, restorative justice, and more.