In this episode of Between Sundays, Top Gun O’Briant and Little d&e pull back the curtain on a side of church life most people never see: the unseen work of leadership, stewardship, and organizational faithfulness that allows ministry to thrive.

Through humor, honesty, and candid reflection, the conversation centers on the often‑overlooked role of an executive pastor—someone tasked with ensuring the church operates efficiently so more resources can be directed toward missions, discipleship, and reaching people for Christ. Obie explains how thoughtful financial oversight, long‑term planning, and wise decision‑making are not distractions from the gospel, but tools that help advance it.

The hosts explore the tension between passion and structure, vision and execution, reminding listeners that while the gospel message never changes, how the church carries it out must continually adapt. The episode closes with gratitude for the many behind‑the‑scenes servants who rarely receive recognition, yet play a vital role in helping the church fulfill the Great Commission.

It’s a thoughtful, behind‑the‑scenes conversation about faithfulness, efficiency, and loving Jesus well—between Sundays.