This Between the Seasons episode marks the start of a new chapter for Why Does It Feel So Wrong to Be Human at Work?

Hosts Pinaki Kathiari and Chris Lee introduce Bree Bartos, the new Executive Producer and Editor of Human at Work and Marketing Manager at Local Wisdom. Before diving into Bree’s story, Pinaki and Chris share what listeners can expect from these new, weekly Between the Seasons episodes.

Bree then opens up about her path into marketing and storytelling, her experience being laid off alongside her husband, and the shock of losing not just a job, but a sense of identity. Together, they reflect on burnout, rest, and why so many of us tie our worth to our work.

In this episode, they discuss:

• Why Between the Seasons exists and what listeners can expect
• The value of unscripted, honest conversations
• What it feels like to be laid off without closure
• How work can quietly become identity
• The importance of rest, reflection, and reconnecting with yourself
• Why staying human at work starts with empathy
• It’s a grounding, vulnerable start to Between the Seasons and a reminder that behind every role, title, and podcast is a human first.

Timestamps

00:00 – Welcome to Between the Seasons

01:00 – Why this new format exists

02:30 – Introducing Bree and her role behind the pod

04:10 – Bree’s path into storytelling and marketing

07:40 – Being laid off and losing a sense of identity

11:30 – Burnout, rest, and redefining self-worth

13:00 – What’s coming next for Between the Seasons

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Connect with Us

Pinaki Kathiari – LinkedIn  | Local Wisdom

Chris Lee – LinkedIn | Gallagher Communication

Bree Bartos – LinkedIn | Local Wisdom

Special thanks to digital communication agency Local Wisdom (www.localwisdom.com) for really believing in our mission and making this podcast possible. 

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