What's the difference between spiritual work and secular, between things we do for God through the church and the stuff we do every day? Meg poses a question and Dave goes off like a box of fireworks in the furnace as they unearth classic manipulative behavior in the church. Don't miss it!

Intro music was written and recorded by Kyle Gilmer

Podcast edited by Kyle Gilmer

Logo by Kyle Gilmer

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