Anyone expecting Meghan Markle’s presence is formally greeted by someone announcing her as “Meghan, Duchess of Sussex.” A recent interview by Harper’s Bazaar detailed an odd encounter with Markle in which she was announced as the duchess to a room of only two people.

On this episode of The Spectator P.M. Podcast, hosts Ellie Gardey Holmes and Lyrah Margo criticize Markle’s entitled behavior that comes in spite of her losing her royal duties and privileges. They also talk about how Markle is perceived by the public eye and how she needs to distance herself from her former royal identity. Tune in to hear their discussion!