A conversation between artist Mel Bochner and scholar James Meyer recorded on opening night of Mel Bochner: Language 1966-2006. This Focus series exhibition brought together more than 50 works on paper, paintings, sculptures, photographs, and installations to present an overview of his language-based investigations over the past four decades. This podcast is brought to you by the Ancient Art Podcast. Explore more at ancientartpodcast.org.