In this fourth episode, Mel interviews Kathy Tracey. She is not just an amazing Master Coach and Practitioner of Systemic Team Coaching, she's also a celebrated Ocean Rower. Along with her 3 crewmates, they hold a Guinness World Record to be the first-ever women’s fours crew to row across any ocean. They self-sufficiently crossed the Atlantic, after a gruelling 67 days, 7 hours and 20 minutes.

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