In this episode, Tom and Tim talk more about fame and inner worlds and creativity . It ends with a reading by Tim from Wallace Stevens’ letters.

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00:00: When parents and teachers only have their kids/students to unburden themselves onto; Tim tells the story of a friend’s friend

04:46: Tim asks why he’s writing poetry and stories, when he’s surrounded by music all the time; Mr. Rogers and Jimi Hendrix

08:04: Tom being torn up about AI and the greedy cannibalization of everything people have created

11:29: Tim is avoiding going to talk to a grade school class about poetry, prayer, and privacy

12:40: Tim’s most intense learning experiences were largely private; his story about cat-sitting and reading “Macbeth”

15:40: What would Tim do if he met Tori Amos or Robert Smith? And talking about the distance that fame puts between people who are well-known, and those who admire them

20:36: Tim talks Son House, and how he was able to still give intensity to songs he’d been singing for thirty years

23:03: Tim talks about Wallace Stevens, walking to work each morning and composing poems in his head; he reads part of his poem, “Final Solioquy of the Interior Paramour”

25:27: Tom talks about singer and poet Ivor Cutler, and even sings one of Cutler’s songs

27:09: The effortless creativity of children

29:10: Tom and Tim talk about how creativity is ground out of people

29:55: Tim talks about carrying drafts about his poems around at his early jobs, to keep them in front of his mind; more about private moments

31:05: For Tim’s Reading Corner, he spends time with The Letters of Wallace Stevens

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