This episode is with workplace consultant and author Matt Dean.

Matt's working life is all about creating kinder, fairer, more productive workplaces and in 2019 he published the book 'The Soft Stuff: Reclaiming Kindness For The World Of Work'.

This episode's topics include:

• Finding your purpose at work
• The 'burnout' crisis
• An ongoing shift in workplace culture
• How cancer changed his life perspective

Music credits:

Ghostrifter - Mellow Out

sudders - Family

Sound produced by Jack Suddaby

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