In this episode, Aaron and Sarah dive into a conversation that many people are thinking about but few know how to talk about well—mental health. The phrase “mentally ill” gets thrown around a lot in our culture today, but what do we actually mean when we say it?

With their usual honesty, humor, and curiosity, Aaron and Sarah wrestle with the tension.

This conversation isn’t about easy answers—it’s about learning how to think, care, and talk about mental health with more wisdom, compassion, and clarity.

Expect thoughtful moments, some laughs, and a conversation that might challenge the way you think about what it means to be “mentally ill.”