It's our 4th Anniversary show! On this episode the Bow Tie Guy reflects back on four years of podcasts with Listener Bev from California. They also talk about how to fight the feeling of losing at life. Could it be that we lose things and people because we hold on too tightly and we crush what we've got? Listen in and find out their thoughts. We also have a Song of the Week from Ben Rector. Thanks for 4 years!