Kurt von Hamburg joins us in Episode 161 for a wild ride of storytelling. Kurt is a member of the local band Dealin' in Dirt. He tells us how one of the most negative things that can happen to you can yield one of the most positive results. Tune in for some stories about a broken legal system and life in the Florida correctional system. 

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