[INTERVIEW STARTS AT 7:07]

In this episode Paky sits down with one of our absolute favorite people ever in music, Devin Townsend and do a deep dive into the motivations behind his latest release 'Empath'. Empathy, fear and forgiveness is discussed as they dig towards the core of what drives a great artist to keep going and find something important to say in his third decade of writing and recording.

Empath is out now and we love it! Check it out on any streaming platform, or get your physical copy today!

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