Jared and Legz shared a nice lengthy chat with Dino Cazares on the first night of The World Industrialist tour at The Black Sheep in Colorado Springs. Dino shared some thoughts on the recent European tour with Devin Townsend, feedback good and bad since the release of "The Industrialist" as well as pros and cons of writing with a live drummer vs a drum program. We also heard about what to look forward to with the next Fear Factory album and Dino's view on how technology has affected piracy in the entertainment industry. The conversation closed out with 8 string integration and gear talk.