In this episode, Cathy talks with fellow futurist, Bronwyn Williams, about the metaverse, the economics of the metaverse, or metaversonimics, and even the future of gold and bitcoin. Bronwyn is a Partner, Foresight Lead, and Trend Analyst at Flux Trends.  They also talk about Bronwyn's upcoming book, The Future Starts Now, to which Cathy contributed a chapter on virtual worlds and the metaverse to. You can pre-order the book today.