Our guest this week is Mike Omer. Mike has been a journalist game developer CEO of a gaming company, right. And it's really hit his stride is a mystery thriller writer with two series that Glenmore park mysteries, which introduces Zoe Bentley. He is also the writer of the Zoe Bentley series, Mike is working on a new series with a female hostage negotiator as his lead protagonist. We talked about craft and how important editors are to the process of crafting a great book. It's my pleasure to welcome Mike Omer to the show.