So Micheal i met years ago when his band The Secret from Italy on SouthernLord toured the states with Black Breath and our old band Attention Seeker played with them so we caught up on IG which you can watch suspendedsoultapesrecords so got a little glitchy a few times and a half minute or so of silence when we lost each other anyways we just talk music life his label and his bands and shot the shit and he now lives in the Netherlands but The Secret still goes along with other projects he does i hope you all enjoy this episode oh we got a little drunk hahaha or at least i did anyways great talks