Are you convinced yet? If not, listen to this episode's final arguments, along with two very special guests. First, creative genius, Jeremy Brown, author of Ocean of Storms and Zero Limit, tells you why hating Michael Bay isn't cool like it was in 2001. Then, baseball historian, Swamp Fox Frias, host of The Vintage Baseball Podcast, recalls exactly what Michael Bay's films have meant to him as a movie lover, theater scholar, and kid at heart. Roll credits...