You might not think about the US FDA often, but their work touches nearly every part of your life. In this episode, J talks to Michael Jovel about how they’re using design thinking to make their digital products easier to use for everyone.

Michael Jovel is a Designer and Front-end Developer at the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the lead on the Labcoat Design System. He also organizes the Defense Media Innovation Lab and the Bmoresponsive web conference.

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