Tom and his father Michael Keefer sit down to talk about the colonial situation in Palestine and Turtle Island and the letter that Michael is writing to Stephane Dion. Michael Keefer is Professor Emeritus at the University of Guelph and has produced a number of texts bearing on Canada's role in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, among them 'Antisemitism Real and Imagined' (2010), of which he was editor and part-author, and 'Hard Truths for Canada about Israel and Palestine' (2015). You can find all of Michael's writings on his website, www.michaelkeefer.com.