In this conversation, Kelvin Waites interviews Michael Laidler about his journey as a father, law enforcement officer, and leadership development speaker. They discuss the importance of self-awareness and leadership, as well as the challenges of raising children in the digital age. Michael shares his motivation for writing a book and starting a podcast, highlighting the value of curiosity and lifelong learning. He emphasizes the need for individuals to take ownership of their personal growth and not rely solely on organizations for development. The toughest lesson in leadership that Michael has learned is that not everyone is saveable, and leaders must accept this reality while still giving their best effort to help others. In this conversation, Michael Laidler and Kelvin Waites discuss leadership and personal experiences. They touch on topics such as the challenges of leading difficult individuals, the impact of leadership on early and later stages of a career, and the importance of resilience and self-awareness. Michael shares his personal experience of homelessness and how it motivated him to work hard and build a successful life. The conversation also highlights the significance of feedback in leadership and the need for leaders to create a culture of psychological safety. Michael promotes his book, 'Greatness Beyond the Badge,' and provides information on how to book him for speaking engagements.