In this episode former finance minister Michael Noonan joins his successor Paschal Donohoe to discuss Fine Gael’s faltering election strategy.During what is a rare interview, Mr Noonan wades into the election debate, arguing Fianna Fáil or Sinn Féin can manage the economy.

He also talks about the highs and lows of his 39 years in Leinster House and reveals who he would like to see as a future leader of Fine Gael.