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Michael Phillips (education advocate and former pastor) shares with Carey Nieuwhof his reflections on the challenges Black pastors are facing, the importance of local churches in meeting community needs and why he believes empathy is the greatest tool for social justice. 

 

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Learn more about Phillip’s latest book, Wrong Langes Have Right Turns, at PenguinRandomHouse.com.

 

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