Michael Holley is joined by his longtime friend Michael Smith to discuss everything from Smith's new job, his time at ESPN & the way things went down in the end and how he was impacted by everything that happened.

2:25 - on his new job as the Executive Vice President & Chief Content Officer at sports media company, (co)laboratory

10:51 - Smith discusses the end of his time at ESPN and the the way that everything went down

25:00 - on how his energy was affecting the people around him

34:55 - on why he thinks things happened the way that they did

37:40 - on his son's reaction to his leaving ESPN

43:15 - on how Holley was the one who introduced him to his wife